Wednesday, March 13, 2019

莫讓媒體控制了你 - 「省錢」可以令你33歲退休?



退休人生/她出生貧困 卻靠這些關鍵33歲退休、環遊世界
https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=505521

話說老闆谷內有位谷友發左條LINK黎, 話有位台灣女性於33歲時退休, 而且話自己出生貧窮, 並沒家底, 可以咁早退休最關鍵原因就是「省錢!」兩個字。二當家一睇篇報導真係無名火起, 又係呢D 扮心靈雞湯既心靈毒藥, 我只希望年輕人唔好信呢D咁既垃圾報導, 信左就害你一世架啦。

先講呢位女士, 佢話自己同普通人一樣, 一開始出黎做野月入3萬台幣, 退休果陣收入已經增加三倍多, 兩公婆一開始可以慳到50%既收入, 到退休前仲可以慳到90%, 慳到既錢投入 ETF, 最後累積了3千多萬台幣退休金/750萬港紙。



How This Couple Retired In Their 30s To Travel The World

聽落好似好正, 先不論750萬講退休是否合乎現實, 各人有各人既需求 (香港退休應該要幾千萬加自住樓至叫勉強合格), 但睇番英文版訪問, 其實有幾點係中文版到係完全無講到既

1. 文中完全無提到老公既收入
根據英文版, 佢老公入 MICROSOFT 果陣係 USD85,000一年 (即港紙60幾萬), 佢離開公司果陣年薪已經拎緊百萬港紙。而佢老婆30000台幣月薪起跳, 我當你走果陣係10萬幣月薪, 120萬台幣一年, 為起都係30萬港紙。

Jeremy: When I started out of college, I was making about $40,000 a year, and that went up to more than $50,000 by the time I left. At Microsoft, I started at $85,000 a year and by the end of my 12 years there, I was at around $140,000.

2. 輕輕帶過投資, 剩係話自己買 ETF。但睇番英文, 又好似係另一個故事黎WO。

When the financial crisis hit, how did that affect your plan? 
Jeremy: On paper, we lost $400,000, but I was mostly upset that I didn’t have more cash to buy more stock. I looked at it as a fire sale on stock, and I wanted to buy more at a discount. I had a little cash and used all of that to buy more stock. I even wondered, should I take out a loan to buy more stock? Two years later, we were far more wealthy than we were at the beginning of it. As long as you don’t panic and sell at the bottom and get out of the market completely, the overall market shouldn’t affect you much at all. We’re maybe even stronger for it. Maybe the psychological effect was that I worked a few years longer, and that’s why I said, hey, there’s this really interesting project at work. I partially wanted to ride the market crash out and save a little bit more.
3. 完全無提過財商既重要性

Do you have any income now?
Last year, the blog made $2,000. It’s a hobby that has the server fees paid for by the ad income. But all of our income comes from dividends and interest. We just live off them. I do a pretty active tax management of those assets, so in 2013 and 2014, we paid $0 tax while also converting about $20,000 a year to our Roth IRA to make that money tax-free forever.
對比起兩篇文章, 中文版係 SELL DREAMS, 而英文版係 MORE PRACTICAL。因為對couple 其中一方為台灣人就拎黎放大黎講, 其實係咪唔夠全面呢?

我以前都信「省錢」就可以成功, 但現實話俾我聽係唔 work 既, 早一點認清殘酷既現實, 有時反而可以早點準備好。






13 comments:

  1. 好似以前剛接觸財務自由呢個term時,有睇過呢個報導,不過當時冇深究。其實省錢只是第一步,由零開始,除非借爆錢買細價股,又剛好遇上大牛市,否則點會只靠慳錢同買etf就做到財自~

    不過呢d報導,總比「公屋中大生月入2萬怨天怨地怨父母」之類的報導好。

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    1. 「財務自由」「退休」等, 最緊要係計劃同執行, 如果篇報導既重點偏向多D技術性/學術性既操作會更好。

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    2. 我相信慳錢同買盈富基金都可以財自嘅

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    3. 安師兄, 每個人的搵錢, 儲蓄能力都不同。建議你跑一下BACKTEST去測試一下。

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    4. 我自己用盈富基金(恆指1000=價位1) backtest了,5000元月供形式,相對高位賣出/相對低位買入,20年都應該有400萬嘅,400萬3%利息應該,即每月收入1萬銀。

      400萬係香港係細數目(特別20年後),亦可能有不少突然支出影響投資計劃。

      但我相信:
      1. 嘛做多10年整到6-700萬再退休
      2. 返多D工,加大投資額度
      3. 唔好係香港生活,去其他低消費國家

      不要太高要求,總可以像的士司機拎住匯豐退休嘅。

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    5. 安兄, 有咁既諗法同實行已經係成功既第一步, 最緊要自己計掂數。
      二當家只係唔同意台灣篇文章將「節儉=提早財自」畫成等號。

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  2. 對,省錢及嚴控開支只是第一步。投資有道才是重點。當然,報道是有誤導的成份。

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    1. 其實我篇文既重點係「省錢」不等於「提早退休」, 希望傳遞到一個正確既信息。

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  3. 只係慳錢,以為量入為出,就一世無憂,隨時一出大事就打入貧窮地獄。

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    1. 由細到大父母都係話死慳死抵, 但今時今日死慳死抵係咪真係可以衣食無憂/退休?
      二當家信錯左10年, 希望時下年輕人可以有過正確既覺悟。

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  4. 以為香港傳媒才會這樣操作標題內容呃人, 點知天下烏鴉一樣黑!

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    1. 其實英文報導已經係2015年既事, 台灣果篇係2019, 邊個有心炒冷飯, 大家心照。

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  5. 原來係GOCURRYCRACKERS。
    佢地出名R信用卡優惠,用積分換呢樣換果樣度日。
    兩個人夾埋主動收入百幾二百萬港幣一年,投資回報低少少都夠過活。
    個重點係你要係30歲前有過百萬年薪丫嘛LOL
    再加上生活係重稅既美國,配合埋避稅技巧先得。
    平常人財商低少少,啲錢都會不知不覺流返去政府手上。

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